E2

E2, aired 5/5/04

The probe couldn't be stopped. Seven million dead. Everything is happening as it happened before.


The only thing to do is to find Jonathan Archer.


T'Pol is meditating. The comm chimes and someone enters. She swallows hard and slowly turns her head towards the person approaching.


It's Trip, unable to sleep, his insomnia's come back. Man, does he rush to explain his presence! Has he been practicing what he is going to say to T'Pol before the mirror, trying to get the words just right?

T'Pol cuts to the chase. He's there for his NP fix.

Trip reminds her it has been weeks since their last session and they've all been under a lot of stress lately.

T'Pol wants to discontinue the NP sessions because he's grown quite skill at the postures she has shown him. A puzzled Trip asks why and she tells him she has taught him all she can. He reminds her she told him it takes years to master and he isn't that quick a study. (Oh, years it is, Trip? Hmm, how long do you plan to have these NP sessions?)


T'Pol snaps at him that she has taught him all she can.



Trip changes tactics. Look, he tells her...


...I'm sleeping fine. (The natural Trip is back - no longer sounds like he is reciting a prepared script.) I didn't come for NP, I came because I'm worried about you.

Worried?

"You've been keeping to yourself a lot lately, even more than usual. You spend every free moment in your quarters. You even asked Chef to bring your meals her." (And we just thought T'Pol was keeping a close eye on Trip in Harbinger! What does he do, follow her around wringing his hands? Whew, at least she is still eating!)


"The Mess Hall's heavily damaged, where do you suggest I eat." (Hmm, T'Pol, where did you eat last week with Trip? Wasn't that the Mess Hall?)

Now Trip cuts to the chase. "Come on, you gotta admit you've been avoid me ever since the two of us...You know, when we..."


"Had sexual relations."


"Wow, that's real romantic when you put it that way." Oh, Trip, poor guy! He is a romantic and their tryst/one night stand/brief encounter/whatever did mean more to him than he lets on. Or maybe he is just teasing her gently.


"I told you, what happened was an exploration. not the prelude to an intimate relationship."


"I never said I wanted a relationship."


"Neither did I." OK, either T'Pol is prevaricating to protect herself, or she is telling the truth and she only wanted to experience human sexuality and chose Trip because she thought that he was the type of man who went from one woman to another without consequences. Is she a user or in denial?





Quite the exchange of looks. Trip stares her down after her last statement and she glances away. She is prevaricating.



"You helped me get through a rough patch and I'm grateful. I just stopped by to see if I could return the favor. "


"I appreciate your concern. But I'm fine."


Trip gives her one last long look, nods his head, sighs and leaves.


Enterprise is off to meet Degra. The crew has to get through a subspace corridor. To get to it they have to go through a nebula with at least 6 Kovaalan ships guarding it.


Malcolm, the tactical guy extraordinaire, recommends they enter at a point above the layer of metreon gas, which should reflect our engine signature, create multiple sensor ghosts, false readings, and hopefully confuse the aliens about which one to shoot at.


Hmm, another Enterprise enters the picture just before they enter the nebula.


Reverse course immediately!


Lorian, Captain of the Enterprise, and Karyn Archer, First Officer, come aboard Enterprise. Lorian suggests they meet with T'Pol in the Conference Room. (Those wacky yet lovable unknown aliens are always welcome and allowed on the ship within seconds of being encounted! Even in the midst of getting to an important meeting to save the world.)


Lorian explains they can't take the ship into the subspace corridor because Enterprise will be thrown back in time 117 years. How does he know? It has already happened and that he is there to make sure history doesn't repeat itself.


The Kovaalans attacked Enterprise as soon as it entered the nebula (drat, that means Malcolm's plan didn't work!). The crew made it to the corridor and got through it in only a few seconds, travelling 11.6 light years. But the stars were off and Venus was in retrograde (or whatever).

T'Pol looks like she is under a strobe light, so that we know this is an alternate universe - nothing like good old visual clues to keep you on track!

Enterprise was in the right place, but over 100 years early. The theory is that the impulse wake destabilized the corridor, causing it to shift in time. (That was my guess as well.) T'Pol discovered the trip through the corridor was one way and there was no going back. (Notice all these references to "trip" and "corridor?" Just an observation.)

OK, so here's the plan. They can't go back to earth because they will contaminate their own history. So the decision maker decides they will hang around the Expanse for the next 100 years and maybe they can warn earth about the Xindi probe or even stop the probe. In the meantime, they'll mate and have offspring to carry out this mission. This is one doozy of a plan. Because of its sheer brilliance, it will probably be written up and taught as standard procedure across the universe. Or maybe not.

T'Pol is sceptical about the whole thing. Enterprise doesn't have provisions or fuel for such a long journey. Hmm, can't they get fuel and provisions?


"You've hardly changed, Mother."


I beg your pardon?


"You made alliances with other species, traded technology for food and supplies. You even acquired a few alien crew members. We did our best to carry out the mission you gave us" to destroy the first Xindi probe. Despite years to prepare, they failed to destroy the probe because they were one ship and no match for the Xindi. (OK, couldn't the ship have gone back to earth a few years ago and told them about what would be coming?) But E2 can help E1 make the rendezvous with Degra and the Council. No need to go through the corridor. Using alien propulsion technology to modify the injector assembly E1 will be able to travel at 6.9 and make the meeting without using the subspace corridor. The hull plating can be modified to compensate for the stress. The injectors on E2 are too old for these modifications, but practically new on E1. Realizing the E1 crew are sceptical, Karyn suggests going to Phlox to confirm the identity of these harbingers from the past/future/present and then all will be believed.


T'Pol notices immediately that Lorian has human chromosomes. Phlox gives her an A+ (teacher's pet!) and says the chromosomes came from his father. "Not possible," T'Pol exclaims! Humans and Vulcans have never been able to reproduce! Hmm, more nighttime reading by our favorite Science Officer, in which she examines the possibilites? Of course, it turns out that Phlox, in his brilliance learns to combine the Vulcan and human genomes. Who's the father? Why, Commander Tucker, of course!




Father and son meet in Engineering. Trip tells Lorian his eyes are just like Trip's dad's. "Now the ears, those, those are your mother's."


Lorian smiles and Trip is surprised. Lorian says his human and Vulcan heritage allow him to find a balance between emotion and logic. Also, he wasn't raised with the same inhibitions as most Vulcans.


Lorian learned engineering by reading Trip's logs. Dry reading, Trip replies, I hope I gave you some hands on training as well. I'm sure you would have, says Lorian, sadly.


There's something you're not telling me.

You died when I was 14.

What happened?

I'm not sure we should be discussing your future. (What? Why not? You discuss everything else!)

Must have been hard growing up without the old man around. I'm sorry I wasn't there.


You were a good father. Strange...being able to tell you that.




T'Pol is still alive! Or is she? Hard to tell under that incredibly old facade. Why make her so old? I don't like it - they should have made her look more like V'Lar. Oh, back to the story.


T'Pol asks about Trip. Trip! She calls him Trip! She doesn't want to see him - it would be too awkward.

T'Pol would love to reminisce but, you know, the clocks a-ticking. She gives Archer a PADD to give to the other T'Pol, who will know what it means.


A very odd scene in which Hoshi and Travis find out they had children, but Malcolm didn't apparently find anyone to marry because he doesn't have children. Hoshi and Travis leave quickly when it becomes apparent this upsets Malcolm and Malcolm, who decides he doesn't like this future, immediately sets about to get to change his future. A mean scene towards Malcolm, but I'm glad he isn't going to not do anything. He realizes if he wants to get married, he has to change his ways.


Lorian admits he dissembled about the risks modifying the ship to go to warp 6 - there is a 22% chance the ship will be destroyed. T'Pold (I ripped that name off from someone on another site) has figured out another solution which will allow the ship to go through the corridor. T'Pol has taken T'Pold's solution to Trip, who concurs that T'Pold's solution will work.

Aside - why doesn't Trip ask about T'Pold, or to see her? Why no curiousity about her?

The decision has been made to go with the two T'Pols' solution. Lorian goes to see T'Pold and chastises her for talking out of turn, that earth will be destroyed. We hear what is obviously an old argument between T'Pold and Lorian. She tells him his human emotions are getting the better of him and he responds she knows nothing about being human. She tells him she knows guilt can be a powerful motivator for humans and not to let it cloud his judgment. Hmm, so Lorian is feeling guilty about something.

Lorian coldly replies, "Maybe you'd be a little more concerned if Vulcan was in danger and not Earth." Whew! Some serious resentment on the part of the son.


It's the Tucker profile! OK, sorry. Lorian has decided the E2 will steal the injectors from E1 and go meet with Degra to convince the Xindi not to attack Earth. Karyn points out that the E1 will be without warp capability, but Lorian assures her his father an fabricate more. This is what needs to be done, if Earth is to be saved! Cue dramatic music and cut to commercial.


Oh, my, Trip is totally enjoying the news that he and T'Pol are parents. He is milking the situation for all it's worth, but, for a man who didn't want to know his future, he does seemed please with this scenario.

Trip asks T'Pol if she has talked with Lorian, who is a good kid. T'Pol says no, she hasn't, and he isn't a kid he is over 100 years old. Trip laughs and says only in the expanse could he have a kid 3 times his age.


"Who would have thought, you and me, huh? Lorian says we're going to be married in a traditional Vulcan ceremony. It's gonna take me weeks to learn to pronounce the vows."


"You know where we are going to have our honeymoon? Cargo Bay Three! He says I'll fill it up with sand that we dug up from a passing asteroid. I'm even supposed to," he laughs, "manufacture a palm tree."


"It's ridiculous to assume that those events are going to happen. Hand me the flux coupler."

"Aren't you at all curious about how you and I are supposed to end up together?"


"The fact that our counterparts marry doesn't mean we'll do the same."


"You're afraid to admit that under the right circumstances, you could have feelings for me. Maybe you have them already."


T'Pol: "I should've known this was a mistake."
Trip: "What?"
T'Pol: "Exploring human sexuality with you. You're obviously unable to have a physical relaionship without developing an emotional attachment."


Trip: "You know, all the other women on board must have been taken, because I can't imagine any other reason why...


...I would've married someone as stubborn as you."


"I'll go help Rostov with the part manifold. You seem to have everything under control."


OK, so do we have the reversal of traditional gender roles between these two? Trip planning the wedding and kids, and T'Pol freaking out about commitment and running scared?


Lorian steal the injectors...


...and shoots dad in the process. Trip is rapidly rethinking the whole "Lorian is a good kid and marriage to T'Pol wouldn't be so bad" idea.


Realizing what Lorian is doing, the E1 fights back. T'Pol runs to the transporter and beams out some equipment from the E2. They could steal from each other all day, it seems.


OK, clearly Lorian has trained with one of the finest strategists ever born. He is going to kill the people on Enterprise to get to Degra. But if he kills the people on Enterprise, then will he be around any more, or will he go poof? This time travel does give me a headache! Fortunately, Lorian surrenders.


In the brig, Lorian says he took the only logical course. We find out Lorian is wracked with guilt because he had the opportunity to destroy the probe but didn't because his emotions took over, he hesitated, and the opportunity to ram E2 into the probe and destroy it was gone. 7 million people dead as a result. OK, now I understand why he got so angry at T'Pol when she spoke of his emotions - he says here he will not let his emotions interfere again. He won't let earth be destroyed.


It's tea for two T'Pols!


T'Pold and T'Pol discuss ways to adjust the ships technology to prevent the corridor from destabilizing again. T'Pol looks at T'Pold uncertainly, not sure what to make of this old woman.



Are you feeling better, T'Pold asks? Have the TD symptoms diminished?


T'Pol: To a degree, but I haven't fully recovered.
T'Pold: You'll never fully recover. The emotions you've accessed will be with you the rest of your life.



You're going to have to learn to live with them, as I have. There's someone on the ship who can help you. No, not Phlox...


...Trip can be an outlet for these feelings. "If you'll trust him. The emotions he stirred in me...


...were powerful...and frightening. I tried to push him away. If Enterprise hadn't been stranded in the past it's possible I never would've married Trip,. But I can't imagine what my life would have been like without him."


T'Pol: What do you suggest I do?
T'Pold: There's a human expression. "Follow your heart."
T'Pol: What if my heart doesn't know what it wants?
T'Pold: It will, in time. It will. (T'Pol swallows hard and slightly nods her head.)


Enterprise enters the nebula. E1 and E2 pull a fast one! They enter as one and split apart. Surprised, the Kovaalans attacking the ships fall back. But the last torpedo caused damage and Trip has to shut down the port engine. E1 can't keep up with E2.


E2 has a tractor beam! No more grapplers!


The aliens regroup and start to reattack the ships. E2 starts attacking the aliens. They slingshot E1 into the corridor and turn on the aliens. The last thing Lorian says is...


..."Tell my parents that I'll see them soon."


E1 gets through the corridor and are early for the meeting with Degra, but E2 doesn't make it. A thought is expressed: if E1 wasn't thrown into the past, then maybe history corrected itself.

If that is true, then why would we remember them [E2]? T'Pol asks.

A whole mess of folks have made comments

For the love of the Lord, where are the little comments?? I love the little comments! It's good to see some hard evidence that Trip can still smile. He's not completely scarred for life then :)

I love him, I love her, they love each other! *giggles* Man, I'm up way past my bedtime (1:20am here). :)

Two words... Fantastic Episode... ok so it might not match to the previous, but it was bound to shift a little eventually, I loved it all... well I love the episodes of time travel and descendants... hehehe, as for Lorian and trip, they look like true related family. T'pol herself looked dead in her agedness... but it worked.

And the emotional track and whiplash of T/Tp finding out about Lorian it was directed and done well.

Thank ye for the cappies

(The little comments come in a day or two.)

Man, oh, man, this was great for T/T.

I must seen this episode .
now is the geustion where can I download this hmmmm I find a way I must haha =)
by the way thanx voor de screencaps ;)

hang on hang on hang on? Was the future vulcan dude the child of Trip and T'Pol?? Gah! Oh please say yes!

There's not enough SQUEE in the world. Thanks for the caps, myst. :)

Wait...got it...never mind...*squeeee!*

the child of T'Pol and Trip.
it must be treu PLEASE...PLEASE whriters of Enterprise.

I saw this episode, I squeed & almost ran outside in my underwear banging pots, I was so excited. *g* Hey, it's a redneck thing. Trip would understand. :)

Someone remind Trip that, as a native Floridian, he should know sand gets into the damnedst places. Can't say it'd be the ideal place for....ahem.

Thanks HEAPS for the caps and keeping the obsession alive and well.

the sand and palm tree i believe where there as symobols of their representive cultures..
the sand to represent the desert of vulcan and the palm tree for florida.

i did like it that the ceremony was vulcan. which showed that trip didnt make her reject her vulcan heritage but rather wanted her to keep in touch with it.

something i suspect current tpol has wondered about and well now current trip may be looking into it.

just think of the talks they could have as trip asks tpol to help him understand some of it.

i would like to see screen cap of when archer is talking to lorian in the brig when lorian talks about the failed attempt to destroy the probe and archer's reaction to it.
because i think that has been something haunting archer all season could he make that sacrifice if needed and so far it looks like he would have a very hard time doing so,

I loved when Trip rolled his tongue in his cheek
In the scene where Trip comes to T'pol's quarters.

I loved it when Trip rolled his tongue in his cheek, he knew that T'pol wasn't telling him the truth.

She only confirmed it when she wouldn't look at him.

I was really proud of Trip for not losing his control after she said that she was fine. He just signed and left.

I loved Trip's parting shot to T'Pol in their second scene about having everything under control. I love how he's not buying it, either. He knows there's something wrong and that he figures prominently into it somehow. I love that he's got her figured out despite T'Pol's best efforts to deny it and push him away. And I love that he's not going anywhere. He'll wait.

*sigh*

What a fantastic, outstanding episode for our lovely duo.

When do you think they will marry?

I loved two things about this episode (well, many more than that, but mainly these two things):

1.) She called him "Trip." Not "Charles," but the far more intimate "Trip." Yah.
2.) The ease with which Trip says to Lorian, "But those ears are definintely your mother's." It seemed completely and utterly natural for him to speak of T'Pol as the mother of his child.

Excellency. Great caps as usual.

what does old t'pol tell current t'pol? - not seen episode(uk)

I just watched it again... I caught so much more.
Another thing (non shipperish) i'd like to comment on, was Reed, poor fellow didn't get any girls, and then at the end of that scene he takes action in a sense... I just loved that.

I love how Older T'pol told younger t'pol that Trip would be the one to help her, "unlock" all of her feelings, it just seemed so funny especially since elder T'pol spoke so slowly. Good thing she said it too, or we might not have much shipperage.

Did Trip say it'll take him months to learn the Vulcan vow or did he say it'd as in past tense? I hope he said it in the present cause you know what that means:) he's still interested:)

Thankyou for the beautiful caps, waiting with great anticipation to see this episode here in the UK, the night it will be shown, I'll have just come back from seeing Connor and Dominic for the first time in person, too much excitement! Wouldn't be without that kind of excitement for the world though!!

Did anybody catch how Archer is quick to ask "who the father is" in sickbay. Poor Archer - give up, it ain't you!

Great screen caps as always. I loved this episode! So many great moments...

This was a episode worth watching over and over!

I noticed that too Penmom- it was almost as if he knew what the answer was, but had to ask just the same.

It was a great episode, unfortantly I had a 24 hour virus so I kept falling a sleep (or getting sick)Good thing I taped it, think I'll go watch it again:):)

oh yeah you gotta love those two!! I made a run for my sketchpad when I first saw the trailer for this episode, T'pol outfits galore! wedding dresses, the reception! Spoiler alert! don't read if you don't wanna!
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Lorian had blue eyes, good to know they're not lost, and hey maybe now they'll have more than one kid!
My screen ain't workin' too good right now, but the caps look great! maybe someone could write an interlude where trip goes to see older T'pol, just a suggestion... keep up the great work, can't wait to see the little conversation caps!

if archer did suspect it goes back to one of my earlier theories that he has seen them growing closer for awhile now.
look at carbon creek sometime he has an almost bemused expression at how they flirt and play off of each other.

from the first time i saw it i believe the scene in the expanse episode when jon and trip are talking that jon was tyring to tease trip out of his glum mood a little when he told trip he thought that trip would be one of the first people to show tpol to the airlock.

i think trip's glum shake of the head where trip couldnt even think of a reply spoke volumes to jon just how much tpol has some to mean to trip.

maybe there was a little disappointment.. maybe a sense of feeling left out when jon asks the question but i think it is the kind when two close friends get married to each other and you wonder how much you will be left out of their lives.

but i dont know about jealousy since there wasnt any sign of it at all when he went to see old tpol.
he seemed to be pleased when she asked about trip..glad that their relationship and trip had ment something to her.

Mwahaha! ^_^
I taped it, and I've watched it twice now. Trip and T'pol can be SO dense and stubborn at times. It annoys me, but it just adds further proof that they belong together. Also, they REALLY need to see what's going on, from the outside. Maybe, then, they'll come to their senses. *nodds sagely*
---Luna-signin' off---

Thanks for the Caps. Am looking forward to your verbal Caps. They are always so good!

Have watched this Episode three times now and love the gentle way Trip talks to T'Pol in the opening scene. He's such a good actor - so convincing! I love all his little mannerisms, too.

I also noticed Malcolm's interest in the cute blonde after he found out that he didn't have a family in the future!

Will check back in a few days.
Thanks

This episode contained stuff that we Trip/T'Polers knew in our collective bones was going to happen, from the start. Great caps, and woo-hoo for our two!

WOW! What great caps! This is the episode that I have been waiting for! What wonderful and moving shipper moments! *sigh*

She calls him TRIP.....She is nearly 200 yeas old....but she calls him TRIP...:)

I'm behind the time. Has there been any resolution to whether T'Pol's grandmother or T'Pol herself was on Earth for Carbon Creek? Just how OLD is that Vulcan?! I didn't think that it was "just a story".

Skyeman, it was T'Pol's great, great grandmother on Earth in Carbon Creek, not T'Pol herself.

Thanks for adding all the comments, myst! Caps are always better with comments!

My favorite pics are:
(1) Trip & Lorian side by side in engineering, when Trip ashs for the spanner-doo-dad, and Lorian grabs it and hands it over without missing a beat... like they can work together as two part sof a machine... you also really see the similarities in their bodies & mannerisms... The casting was so great on this ep, did I mention that?
(2) Trip's big giant grin, as he's talking about the palm tree... man, could he be any more gleeful? I wouldn't have been suprised if he'd giggled. :)

BLUE EYES, BABY'S GOT BLUE EYES! Woo, Hoo!

Little comments - SQueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Thanks for those comments.

I loved this episode!

ok so ive seen damage and azati prime last monday, but I wanna see this epp!!!!! *wines*

oh and whats squee?

loving the caps thanx

Maybe, next time, if they have kids, they should name one after Trip's sister! (if it's a girl, duh!)

^^Or how about a Charles Tucker the 4th ;)

My sister and I were high-fiving each other when Phlox announced who Lorian's father was!!! We felt like we had won the big prize or something!!

I think Archer has kinda suspected they were becoming involved but just had to hear it for himself. It was almost like he was afraid he was the father. Talk about a person with commitment issues!!

This episode still makes me smile every time I think of Trip's face when he's talking to T'pol about their honeymoon. What a wonderful, sweet, romantic guy!!

And wasn't it great that the older T'pol told her to follow her heart? I think that path will lead her directly to Trip (subtle hint to the writers)!!

I haven't seen this episode yet, but it looks great. I assume Karyn Archer is a descendant of Jon... Do we get to know who he married?

^Yes, an alien woman whom he rescued.

THANK GOD FOR TIVO.I HAVE WATCHED THIS EPISODE 14 TIMES ALREADY.
GREAT INTERACTION BETWEEN T'POL AND TRIP.MAN IS SHE A CHALLENGE, STUBBORN, BUT ABSOLUTELY IRRESISTABLE. I LOVE GIRLS LIKE THAT!!!!! I LOVE THE CHALLENGE TRIP HAS WITH HER. I AM SO JEALOUS!!!!!!

This way ahead for us here.( we are still at season 1 !!) But I love it! Just loved it! Wonder what will be in store for us next season?Will they remember all this when E1 gets through the corridor . Will they get together as their counterparts did?
thanks!

Thanks for the 'caps, myst! I always enjoy them!

it would be interesting to see what would happen if trip left t'pol alone. would she start coming to his quarters now and again?

Loved this eppie! Did anyone else think that the actor who played Lorian was a great choice? He really looked amazingly like Trip (but older, and half-vulcan, and a little weathered).

Well as ever i am the last to review since we just got the episode last night. And by god wasn't it a cracker. I saw some of the pictures on here but i never realled read to see what was going on (didn't want to spoil it all) so i didn't know the older las was T'pol. I kinda figured it was. When i read the summary for the ep i figured the other ship would some how be enterprise just didn't know the circomstances.

Now that i have finally seen it i'm very glad i did. It was a great episode. I liked the whole concept of them getting into that situation and meeting some of their "older" children. WoW Strange things sure like happening to the enterprise. Who would have thought someone could have children and meet them when they are even older then you. LOL mind twister that one. But very cool.

I liked the scene between T'pol n Trip when they are talkin bout their kid :) i like the emotions that played across her face. And i'm glad they won't compeletely go away. She can learn to smile finally :)

It's also nice to see Trip be happy for a bit. The sister thing hit him hard obviously but im glad now he is finally letting himself feel ok again.

I also liked when they were fighting the aliens and the two ships were under neither each other. And then they seperated. Very cool stratergy.

All in all a very good episode. I do hope they keep up the good episodes for the next season cos this season VERY GOOD.

Great Pictures as always!
FYI David Andrews played Lorian and he's a very good actor. Some of us remember him from a movie in 1987 called Cherry 2000 and also from a tv show in 1992 called Mann & Machine. Just a little trivia. I'd like to see more of him in Star Trek. Great character.

I am sure that after T'Pold told T'Pol to follow her heart, she threw in one final very important piece of advice: "MOISTURIZE!" Then maybe her skin won't look so brutal in 100 years.

Hehe so T'pol is going to grow out her hair a little!

But her older self looked soooooo old!

Loved ut, loved it. Can't wait until Season 3 comes out on DVD, October 2005 I'm sure... :) Season 1 is coming out May 3rd, and will cost $103.00 for those of you buying it at Barnes and Noble's Bookstore.

hey yeah daivd andrews is great, he is also in, terminator 3 :rise of the machines and a walk to remember with manady moore

OooooYeah Baby. Trip + T'Pol = Lorian (Star Trek's MacGyver)

i loved this episode cos trip really challenged t'pol to get over herself and admitt to her feelings but not only that, she tell "herself" to as well

wat the hell! i hav net even see these episodes and i already loveths them!

i luv this episode so much